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		<title>By: The bridge across forever&#8230;. » Blog Archive &#187; The Latest Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator>The bridge across forever&#8230;. » Blog Archive &#187; The Latest Curry</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve had a gamut of people indulging in Lee-bashing, which I completely revel in, and I see that there is an excited interchange of thoughts on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: baby</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-72</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice website!!</description>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pilon : &#039;&lt;em&gt;Along with clerkship comes the apathy towards everything.&lt;/em&gt;&#039; .... I agree, with a heavy heart.

&#039;&lt;em&gt;Society openly calls them “backward”&lt;/em&gt;&#039; ..that&#039;s what!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pilon : &#8216;<em>Along with clerkship comes the apathy towards everything.</em>&#8216; &#8230;. I agree, with a heavy heart.</p>
<p>&#8216;<em>Society openly calls them “backward”</em>&#8216; ..that&#8217;s what!!</p>
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		<title>By: pilon</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>pilon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a saying - people get the government they deserve. I would like to add something to I already said in my comment earlier written for &quot;Reality Check&quot;. Along with clerkship comes the apathy towards everything. Walk on the streets of India and you&#039;ll see what I mean. Unfinished jobs, carelessness in almost everything being attempted everywhere. 

Caste system is a difficult subject to voice opinion on so easily. But I am confident that the problem isn&#039;t the &quot;reservation&quot; but it is the &quot;selfish policies&quot;. In a society, there are two main categories of people, one is called as a bulley and the other, the lean. The bulley class happened to be the current &quot;reserved&quot; class because that category reached positions which are responsible to make and break laws. Things were made to look good for those people, and we kept misinterpreting too. Society openly calls them &quot;backward&quot; and we expect moving forward on such grounds? think again.. 

In the end, it is the caste system that will destroy India. No matter whom it favors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a saying &#8211; people get the government they deserve. I would like to add something to I already said in my comment earlier written for &#8220;Reality Check&#8221;. Along with clerkship comes the apathy towards everything. Walk on the streets of India and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. Unfinished jobs, carelessness in almost everything being attempted everywhere. </p>
<p>Caste system is a difficult subject to voice opinion on so easily. But I am confident that the problem isn&#8217;t the &#8220;reservation&#8221; but it is the &#8220;selfish policies&#8221;. In a society, there are two main categories of people, one is called as a bulley and the other, the lean. The bulley class happened to be the current &#8220;reserved&#8221; class because that category reached positions which are responsible to make and break laws. Things were made to look good for those people, and we kept misinterpreting too. Society openly calls them &#8220;backward&#8221; and we expect moving forward on such grounds? think again.. </p>
<p>In the end, it is the caste system that will destroy India. No matter whom it favors.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Noname: I absolutely agree. This is not just about the general category not getting their deserved seats, it&#039;s going to affect EVERYONE tomorrow -  your parents, you, your children. It is going to slowly reach out to everyone and lower the standard of services.

Brilliant point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Noname: I absolutely agree. This is not just about the general category not getting their deserved seats, it&#8217;s going to affect EVERYONE tomorrow &#8211;  your parents, you, your children. It is going to slowly reach out to everyone and lower the standard of services.</p>
<p>Brilliant point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Abishek Sridharan

YAR ( Yet another rant)

I hope this is not the kind of reservation you had in mind when u said some kind of reservation is required. Its for all of us to see that this policy has never actually helped people who are actually at the lowest level in our society. Their situation has not improved at all. In villages even if they have a policy for free education children can&#039;t goto school because a) The resources like reading writing material don&#039;t reach them. b) They have to start working so that they cant start earning for there family. So we should find a way to help them and not the ones who are being helped now.


Only rich OBC SC get to  use this reservation facility. But their mentality never changed. So they get to top positions everywhere  and then try to make money by all means. this trickles to lower level and whole system gets corrupt.

I digressed from the original discussion here. So coming back to that lets take a simple example.
In India in all highly ranked medical schools each Specialization (MD) has seats like 1 or 2( never more than 5). right now 50% is reserved for sc&#039;s so if  other 27% goes to obc&#039;s we won&#039;t have any md&#039;s from general merit at all. So even if you have money to goto best doctors in the country they wont actually be the best. You&#039;ll loose that choice which can affect your whole life. What do you say about that? Will you be comfortable? Lets say a bridge constructed by lesser qualified architect with flawed design because he was not bright enough but still got through architecture school collapses and  takes so many lives. Will government will take responsibility for that? Ofcourse no. these things can directly affect people&#039;s lives. Its not something from which anybody can be unaffected . i can&#039;t see how reservation can be justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Abishek Sridharan</p>
<p>YAR ( Yet another rant)</p>
<p>I hope this is not the kind of reservation you had in mind when u said some kind of reservation is required. Its for all of us to see that this policy has never actually helped people who are actually at the lowest level in our society. Their situation has not improved at all. In villages even if they have a policy for free education children can&#8217;t goto school because a) The resources like reading writing material don&#8217;t reach them. b) They have to start working so that they cant start earning for there family. So we should find a way to help them and not the ones who are being helped now.</p>
<p>Only rich OBC SC get to  use this reservation facility. But their mentality never changed. So they get to top positions everywhere  and then try to make money by all means. this trickles to lower level and whole system gets corrupt.</p>
<p>I digressed from the original discussion here. So coming back to that lets take a simple example.<br />
In India in all highly ranked medical schools each Specialization (MD) has seats like 1 or 2( never more than 5). right now 50% is reserved for sc&#8217;s so if  other 27% goes to obc&#8217;s we won&#8217;t have any md&#8217;s from general merit at all. So even if you have money to goto best doctors in the country they wont actually be the best. You&#8217;ll loose that choice which can affect your whole life. What do you say about that? Will you be comfortable? Lets say a bridge constructed by lesser qualified architect with flawed design because he was not bright enough but still got through architecture school collapses and  takes so many lives. Will government will take responsibility for that? Ofcourse no. these things can directly affect people&#8217;s lives. Its not something from which anybody can be unaffected . i can&#8217;t see how reservation can be justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;And comparing the issue with the ‘freedom’ given in other places is utter non-sense.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

And oh yeah, ask anyone who is here about why they chose to come here and you get the same standard replies:

- Quality of life
- EQUALITY
- EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES
- open community
- blah blah blah
-.......

Ever wondered how some things make us or break us?

The last thing I want to do is glorify one country while putting down the other. But that does not mean I will not point out basic human tendencies to choose one system over another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>And comparing the issue with the ‘freedom’ given in other places is utter non-sense.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>And oh yeah, ask anyone who is here about why they chose to come here and you get the same standard replies:</p>
<p>- Quality of life<br />
- EQUALITY<br />
- EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES<br />
- open community<br />
- blah blah blah<br />
-&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Ever wondered how some things make us or break us?</p>
<p>The last thing I want to do is glorify one country while putting down the other. But that does not mean I will not point out basic human tendencies to choose one system over another.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of this blogpage - 
1) All mine.
2) To express my views and advice. People are free to take it or take a hike.
3) I&#039;m not God. I don&#039;t make the rules. I could very well be wrong. But I&#039;d love to make my voice heard.. that&#039;s the least I can do as a microcosm... that too, alienated.

How many people have you come across who say, &quot;Oh well, what does it matter to me now that I am here?&quot; Well, if you haven&#039;t, here&#039;s a reality check - even you would have thought of it sometime.

It&#039;s not about being clueless after a while.. ignorance sets in, and I&#039;m trying to get it back into the realm of perspective. Ask me again what this post is doing here and I will reply with the SAME line above.

Life is all ha-ha-hee-hee when we discuss which toothpaste to buy or where to go for a midnight case of beer,  but why are deeper issues cast aside or pushed under the carpet just because we are on the outer edges? One cannot keep shut just because the media portrays a single point of view. It&#039;s up to us to think. And act.

Sorry for this reply to your rant. I felt I had to make my stand clear. I&#039;m all for debate. And I won&#039;t keep my mouth shut just because I think it&#039;s hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of this blogpage &#8211;<br />
1) All mine.<br />
2) To express my views and advice. People are free to take it or take a hike.<br />
3) I&#8217;m not God. I don&#8217;t make the rules. I could very well be wrong. But I&#8217;d love to make my voice heard.. that&#8217;s the least I can do as a microcosm&#8230; that too, alienated.</p>
<p>How many people have you come across who say, &#8220;Oh well, what does it matter to me now that I am here?&#8221; Well, if you haven&#8217;t, here&#8217;s a reality check &#8211; even you would have thought of it sometime.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about being clueless after a while.. ignorance sets in, and I&#8217;m trying to get it back into the realm of perspective. Ask me again what this post is doing here and I will reply with the SAME line above.</p>
<p>Life is all ha-ha-hee-hee when we discuss which toothpaste to buy or where to go for a midnight case of beer,  but why are deeper issues cast aside or pushed under the carpet just because we are on the outer edges? One cannot keep shut just because the media portrays a single point of view. It&#8217;s up to us to think. And act.</p>
<p>Sorry for this reply to your rant. I felt I had to make my stand clear. I&#8217;m all for debate. And I won&#8217;t keep my mouth shut just because I think it&#8217;s hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhisham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhisham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to argue this topic out here. But prey, was this the purpose of this blogpage? Honestly, after all those beautiful posts by you, I was shocked to see something like this here.

All these things aside, I beg to differ with both the arguing parties here. The truth of it is, the media has potrayed this issue in such bad light that I don&#039;t blame anyone who actually is taking a stand, for or against, in this issue. It has been made out to be such a black and white topic that it is heartbreaking for me to see that no-one seems to look at the real situation here. It has oddly begun to look like a Manchester United vs Arsenal fan bantering where no one is ready to admit any ground to the other. 

And comparing the issue with the &#039;freedom&#039; given in other places is utter non-sense. Don&#039;t even get me started on the topic of American idea&#039;s of &#039;freedom&#039; and how &#039;ridiculous&#039; the indian political class is. India has it&#039;s own issues which are not comparable to any faced by any other country so comparing things  with other democracies is counterfactual. 

Sorry for that rant. I still think this post shouldn&#039;t be on this blogpage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to argue this topic out here. But prey, was this the purpose of this blogpage? Honestly, after all those beautiful posts by you, I was shocked to see something like this here.</p>
<p>All these things aside, I beg to differ with both the arguing parties here. The truth of it is, the media has potrayed this issue in such bad light that I don&#8217;t blame anyone who actually is taking a stand, for or against, in this issue. It has been made out to be such a black and white topic that it is heartbreaking for me to see that no-one seems to look at the real situation here. It has oddly begun to look like a Manchester United vs Arsenal fan bantering where no one is ready to admit any ground to the other. </p>
<p>And comparing the issue with the &#8216;freedom&#8217; given in other places is utter non-sense. Don&#8217;t even get me started on the topic of American idea&#8217;s of &#8216;freedom&#8217; and how &#8216;ridiculous&#8217; the indian political class is. India has it&#8217;s own issues which are not comparable to any faced by any other country so comparing things  with other democracies is counterfactual. </p>
<p>Sorry for that rant. I still think this post shouldn&#8217;t be on this blogpage.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://cluelessinamerika.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/better-off/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Paro : You know what.... I have the distinct feeling.. that they will make reservations for primary and secondary school education too.... in ADDITION to this.. so that the future of mediocrity from birth to death is maintained. 

I wouldn&#039;t put it past them to pull off a stunt like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Paro : You know what&#8230;. I have the distinct feeling.. that they will make reservations for primary and secondary school education too&#8230;. in ADDITION to this.. so that the future of mediocrity from birth to death is maintained. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put it past them to pull off a stunt like this.</p>
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